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Does anyone know what version of the k56 code is in 5.0Ai13?  I can't find
anything in the release notes except for the funny bit saying the hardware
supports v.fc; not the software, I assume, just the hardware.

The docs for 5.0p20 are also not there; they end at p19 and the p19
changes don't include most of the p20 stuff.

Why has Ascend started making their docs impossible to use?  If I want to
know the difference between 5.0Ap6 and p16, I can't just print the notes
for each revision between them.  Not only do they insist on putting the
notes for all the patch releases in the file, but now they have gone one
step further and are mixing them together!  The list of problems fixed is
sorted by TR number, so to find what is fixed in a release you have to
hunt through the whole list.  If someone people want the full notes, that
is fine; just also make the individual release notes available.  We like
hard copies of such things, and it is stupid to print out all the 5.0Ap
notes every time a new release comes out.

It is also annoying that Ascend changes the release notes, removes
versions from them and merges those changes into other versions after the
fact, etc. on a regular basis.  It shouldn't be that complicated to make
the docs right the first time.  Sure, mistakes are made but they are being
made far too often.

How about 5.0Ai3?  We have one copy of release notes printed showing
changes in it, another set printed showing that it doesn't exist and those
changes were really Ai4. 

It is nearly impossible to decide on a good release when half the notes
don't include all the changes (eg. incremental releases sometimes include
fixes from patch releases but they aren't included in the release notes),
some of them are wrong (ie. obviously aren't even _looked_ at before
release), and the actual release notes keep being updated for old
versions.

All we are trying to do is find a good stable revision to upgrade to for
our 56k modems before we have to ship the old ones back.  We are using
5.0Ai8 and find it works well for us.  We would upgrade to the latest Ai
release, except it looks like it may have really old (in terms of k56flex)
modem code and what version it has isn't documented anywhere I can find.
We would use 5.0Ap20 but it is broken.  5.0Ap16 is fine except for the
p20 note that multiple tcp-clear calls can cause p16 to reboot; we do have
multiple tcp-clear sessions at once most of the time.  Earlier 5.0Ap
revisions may be fine, but since Ascend doesn't have a decent bug database
available we have no idea when this bug was introduced, how frequent it
is, etc.  All too often the descriptions in the release notes of bugs are
just wrong.

We have long since abandoned OSPF because it just doesn't work.  Sure, you
can make it work.  But if you look at it wrong it will suddenly start
rebooting.

Not impressed with Ascend's software releases.  Very not impressed.

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